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Vintech X73i (Neve 1073) Replica được so sánh cạnh nhau với một cặp nguyên bản của Vintage Neve 1073 trong một cuộc đấu súng mic preamp khoa học tại các phòng thu Sound Pure. Đối với loạt đá luân lưu, cây đại dương cầm The Sound Pure Steinway Concert đã được ghi âm bằng một cặp micrô Ống Peluso P12 phù hợp (Bản sao cổ điển của micrô AKG C12) được đặt cách nhau trên dây của đàn piano. Mỗi đầu ra của micrô được chia nhỏ, một đầu ra cho Neve và một đầu ra cho Vintech X73i. Đầu ra âm lượng ở các mức giống hệt nhau đã được kiểm tra bằng cách xác minh việc hủy pha gần như hoàn toàn giữa hai tín hiệu khi tổng hợp lại với nhau (với một bộ tiền khuếch đại được đặt thành đảo pha). Bản sao cổ điển Vintech X73i đã thổi bay tâm trí của các kỹ sư tại phòng thu Sound Pure, vì sự khác biệt giữa Vintech và Neve là không thể nhận thấy. Sau khi nghe, các kỹ sư của Sound Pure đã thảo luận về ấn tượng của họ về những âm thanh mà họ đang nghe qua màn hình studio trong phòng điều khiển Sound Pure. Sound Pure tự hào là người bán các sản phẩm của Vintech và bạn có thể liên hệ để trả lời bất kỳ câu hỏi nào về việc quay thử trước mic hoặc nếu bạn muốn các tệp âm thanh độ phân giải cao để nghe riêng. Bạn có thể liên hệ với Sound Pure theo số điện thoại miễn phí 888-528-9703. .
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Vintage Neve 1073 vs. Vintech X73i Mic Pre Shootout.
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For $1700 it better be reliable
They are VERY similar. If you check your ego at the door, you realize they are so similar, that realistically, in the studio there are so many discrepancies from the source.. even with the same exact signal chain.. that these MINOR differences will never be noticed.
As you don’t do the a/b test correctly I’ve Re-edited your video and what it shows when the 2 samples are put right next to each other, is exactly what I expected.
Having owned both units, clearly the difference is this:
The vintech is dull on bottom, and top end q, and not as open
The Vintech is sort of not dynamic!
The Neve 1073 original or original reissue or, 1073pda stereo all sound the same they are not dull like Vintech and they are wide open !
Vintech really is the least close 1073 clone why not ab 2 test of samples next to each other, the right way!
And use a BAE not a bloody Vintech!
Vintech are a $2k good value preamps but not a 1073 Pre amp tone!
The Vintech and 1073 in fact are no more than 90% the same tone
The BAE and 1073 are above 90% the same and we all know it!!!!!
These guys are as bias as a white high school coach in the 50s whose short son is competing a against a tall strong black man. They ooze bias and are even blind to how much better the vintage neve sound.
Listening in my studio on good monitors. I am surprised all these guys in their studio couldn't hear the difference. I wanted to like the Vintec but OMG the 1073s are sooo much better! They sound similar but they feel so different. The Neves have a dimension and harmonic content that melts that piano into my brain. I could listen forever. The Vintecs sound great, clean and nice. Great Piano micing in general though. Nice comparison, but I still don't know what to buy now lol.
I didn't expect such a HUGE difference. But there it is.
I can hear the difference. Original 1073 recording is more well defined, the Vintech is very good but would probably need some mids to be removed to sound as well defined.
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nasty how an owner of such a studio can not hear the very obvious difference! Pathetic! I Bet he holds shares in Vintech toy clone!
There is a difference in the low end to my ears.
The Vintech X73I sounded really good but the magic is in the Neve 1073. It had a larger than life sound as well as a richness the Vintech fell short of. Maybe in 20 years my Vintech X73, (3) X73I and 273 will sound more like the original. Dallas has made a fine product but I can hear the difference in the shootout like night and day. Even my pair of BAE 1073 doesn't sound the same as the original.
Even over my shitty laptop speakers, have to say, I got a little hard listen to those 1073's haha
98% same sound wave but as the vintech slaps itself on the back and finishes for the day, the neve stays late and captures the universe dew
Neve unreliable, ha ha ha!
This test is supported by Vintech?!
The original 1073 sounds defectively more open.
I want NO cheap clone!
Seems like the Neve had a more glorious flatulent quality remeniscent of Elephant Gas, while the Vintech had more of a Castrated Demi God sort of Eunuch flare… I could be wrong…
Fantastic. If you want pristine clarity the vintech was perfect. If you want (slightly) lossy but AMAZING vibe and ear gold the 1073 is just…it’s beautiful. Great demo guys.
Not a subtle difference. its 3D vs 2D sounding at different spots
The Neve has the low mid thing down but the Vintech has more presence in the upper mids. There's variance between the Neve's tho so hard to know if he took a battery of read outs to make the Vintech and it's just different overall than the 1 1073 used for this recording or if it is just "off" as some have alluded to. Regardless for a piano I would prefer the upper clarity because of how I fit them in my compositions.
I'm listening on a galaxy phone right now, and although their tones seem very close in color.. I simply heard a "life" that the original had.. how did I decide that? It simply seemed to move me more, and I swore I heard a more robust representation of tones/overtones (someone mentioned that seeing a piano vs a console might trigger a pseudo effect in your mind lol.. that could be true!?) So I've definitely got to check it out next time I'm in my studio in blind test fashion!
& To those who say there's a difference, then I'd recommend checking out the scheps 73 instead of the vintec (if they're looking for another alternative at a much lower price)
Cool video!
vintech has more texture and better harmonics
"The piano has the greatest range of any instrument" Uhh ever heard of the organ?
Obviously the Neve is gonna have a 'warmer' more rounded out sound, and obviously the low end is going to appear more robust. Its because they are frikin' ancient and worked in. If you took a time machine and brought a fresh from the factory Neve from the 60s and put it against the Vintech, it would likely have the same, brighter sound. When circuits age, the frequency spectrum will change slightly and give the illusion of fatness, but that fatness is just our ears interpreting the 'murkiness' of the imperfect spectrum. I bet if the engineer did a 1 db drop on the extreme highs on the vintech, and a one db boost at 100hz, increased the volume .5 db total, and said it was the Neve, every single person here would be like 'oh my god the Neve is so much warmer'! I have an original Minimoog, and then I listened to the new version which uses the same components. TOTALLY different. It appears sooo much thinner. Cause my Minimoog was made when Jim Morrison was alive!
The Neve sounded 3D and complex with rich tonality like a large budget recording and the vintech sounded completely flat like a bottom of the line beginner piece of equipment, it even had some ugly distortion I didn't like mixed in. To me there's just a huge difference. I could pick these out in an ABX blind test all day. I went into this wanting to believe the more inexpensive gear would do well, but it doesn't. That being said, this is a very revealing and informative video with a good source sound that revealed the difference.
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techs that dont know the right distance to hold a mic🤣
Damn it. I was planning on buying the Vintech…
LOL unreliable.. yeah we know.. you want to sell the new one 😀
For a good comparison technique download the audio (it's not great quality anyway) and put the audio files on two different tracks and solo between both.
second recording sounded better
There is no difference. They 100% Phase cancel each other. i kept skipping between the two (4:26–5:40) click the times here to save trouble. I heard no difference through my monitors or my headphones. like he said, it's hard to argue with. and to test peoples psychological theory about bias judgments…. close your eyes….pretend the vintech is the neve…..and pretend the neve is the vintech….. and see what happens…. it does mess with your mind. I found that little exercise helped me
i love vintech stuff, but it was punchier, lacked some low end depth, and felt less rich than the 1073's….
Neve just automatically hits the sweet spot, for me the Vintech is slighly colder and less focused, and bit boxy, though quite a good copy. You need good headphones to tell the difference, and for me a "small" variation in the sound might not seem so big of a deal, but it's fundamental in a sense of getting the sound right.
there i virtually no difference. And if there is a difference it isn't gonna be the reason your song is gonna be a hit or not.
Booooooo – I own the Vintech X73 and after hearing this test… i think its time to upgrade to the 1073…
I would be more curious to hear these pres on drums.